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		<title>By: Garth</title>
		<link>http://www.developingfor.net/setup-and-deployment/visual-studio-2008-setup-project-frustrations.html/comment-page-1#comment-10067</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks All!

I also have had problems getting the install to work right and have had to start over from scratch many times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks All!</p>
<p>I also have had problems getting the install to work right and have had to start over from scratch many times.</p>
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		<title>By: sandip</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, it saved lots of time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, it saved lots of time</p>
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		<title>By: Renga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me also add to these posts - the VS2008 is a monster and no one knows or can predict what problem you  will face next. The VS2008 is like a spider&#039;s web and once you are caught you will be sucked in full and you will end up as a dried up &amp; burnt programmer.

The installer is the last straw in the VS2008. Mine is a simple app - with one database and it took me a month to battle all over to find out how to use the dataset designer to create a multi-table datagridview and even now there are things that do not work in full. With the Installer you get all things right but at the end the short cut you get will not show the Icon ! And the icon is the symbol of what all you create in your app !

For all the tall talk of .net - it is a time waster for all... Technically superior but you need to a full R&amp;D in the app for each and every command till you get struck with the simple snippet you create because this works..

VB6 may be old but it is safe and productive...I do not know when Microsoft will realise that people and not doctorates has to use their stuff..they should make the VS2008 more human...Less of MSDN mumbo Jumbo and may be a Text Book of VS2008 within say 300 pages which can tell it all..otherwise break the whole app into smaller segments..

VS2008 will create endless confusion..it is as of now a nightmare for me..

God Save Microsoft and their Brainy Development teams.. 

Renga</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me also add to these posts &#8211; the VS2008 is a monster and no one knows or can predict what problem you  will face next. The VS2008 is like a spider&#8217;s web and once you are caught you will be sucked in full and you will end up as a dried up &amp; burnt programmer.</p>
<p>The installer is the last straw in the VS2008. Mine is a simple app &#8211; with one database and it took me a month to battle all over to find out how to use the dataset designer to create a multi-table datagridview and even now there are things that do not work in full. With the Installer you get all things right but at the end the short cut you get will not show the Icon ! And the icon is the symbol of what all you create in your app !</p>
<p>For all the tall talk of .net &#8211; it is a time waster for all&#8230; Technically superior but you need to a full R&amp;D in the app for each and every command till you get struck with the simple snippet you create because this works..</p>
<p>VB6 may be old but it is safe and productive&#8230;I do not know when Microsoft will realise that people and not doctorates has to use their stuff..they should make the VS2008 more human&#8230;Less of MSDN mumbo Jumbo and may be a Text Book of VS2008 within say 300 pages which can tell it all..otherwise break the whole app into smaller segments..</p>
<p>VS2008 will create endless confusion..it is as of now a nightmare for me..</p>
<p>God Save Microsoft and their Brainy Development teams.. </p>
<p>Renga</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.developingfor.net/setup-and-deployment/visual-studio-2008-setup-project-frustrations.html/comment-page-1#comment-6197</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, So sorry to hear....for now I think it will just have to be an embarrassing readme.....Microsoft must be getting too much money from Installshield/Acresso to care about their own problems....But even more embarrassing is the fact that they even to pretend to try....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, So sorry to hear&#8230;.for now I think it will just have to be an embarrassing readme&#8230;..Microsoft must be getting too much money from Installshield/Acresso to care about their own problems&#8230;.But even more embarrassing is the fact that they even to pretend to try&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erik,

I have no answers for you, but after yesterday&#039;s events I can positively say we will be investing in a real Installer Builder soon.

I had a similar issue yesterday: an updated install kept the original desktop icon AND added the new one, but both of them pointed to the old version (which was supposed to be replaced).  Long story short, I had to find and uninstall the &quot;previous version&quot; and then the new icon worked correctly.

I&#039;m just tired of messing with it.  It seems OK for simple first time installs, but anything more complicated and it is one big FAIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erik,</p>
<p>I have no answers for you, but after yesterday&#8217;s events I can positively say we will be investing in a real Installer Builder soon.</p>
<p>I had a similar issue yesterday: an updated install kept the original desktop icon AND added the new one, but both of them pointed to the old version (which was supposed to be replaced).  Long story short, I had to find and uninstall the &#8220;previous version&#8221; and then the new icon worked correctly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just tired of messing with it.  It seems OK for simple first time installs, but anything more complicated and it is one big FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well....final report for the day....I found out how to get it to screw up....regardless of icons....in the installer....when they ask you to specify to install for everyone or just me.....If you select everyone then it will work fine and if you select just me it does the weird install thing.....If someone has any clue why I would greatly appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;.final report for the day&#8230;.I found out how to get it to screw up&#8230;.regardless of icons&#8230;.in the installer&#8230;.when they ask you to specify to install for everyone or just me&#8230;..If you select everyone then it will work fine and if you select just me it does the weird install thing&#8230;..If someone has any clue why I would greatly appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My shortcuts actually install things.....Not sure if anyone else has seen this but my shortcuts actually install the component that they are supposed to be a shortcut for....Now this is not to say that the components were not originally installed by the installer themselves...they were...the shortcut installs the component into the installation folder within a folder named after my deployment project file...This is the weirdest thing I have ever seen....And I have isolated the case so that it only happens when I attach homemade icons to the shortcuts....I am so lost.....Anyways Visual Studio sucks....I would be impressed if someone could get this kind of shortcut activity if they were trying to make it happen on purpose....All I know is this is PITIFUL!!!!!  Help if you dare...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My shortcuts actually install things&#8230;..Not sure if anyone else has seen this but my shortcuts actually install the component that they are supposed to be a shortcut for&#8230;.Now this is not to say that the components were not originally installed by the installer themselves&#8230;they were&#8230;the shortcut installs the component into the installation folder within a folder named after my deployment project file&#8230;This is the weirdest thing I have ever seen&#8230;.And I have isolated the case so that it only happens when I attach homemade icons to the shortcuts&#8230;.I am so lost&#8230;..Anyways Visual Studio sucks&#8230;.I would be impressed if someone could get this kind of shortcut activity if they were trying to make it happen on purpose&#8230;.All I know is this is PITIFUL!!!!!  Help if you dare&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.developingfor.net/setup-and-deployment/visual-studio-2008-setup-project-frustrations.html/comment-page-1#comment-5904</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The deployment projects are pitiful.....this workaround is fine it just sucked that it took a while to figure out.....Anyways...I am curious if anyone has seen there shortcuts act funny....I am testing an install and the shortcuts I create are somehow linked to my installer....they always try to begin the installation and then crash....I have created these shortcuts in every way possible besides doing any command line things....but pitiful is my only explanation....any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The deployment projects are pitiful&#8230;..this workaround is fine it just sucked that it took a while to figure out&#8230;..Anyways&#8230;I am curious if anyone has seen there shortcuts act funny&#8230;.I am testing an install and the shortcuts I create are somehow linked to my installer&#8230;.they always try to begin the installation and then crash&#8230;.I have created these shortcuts in every way possible besides doing any command line things&#8230;.but pitiful is my only explanation&#8230;.any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.....  The &quot;Right-pane&quot; suggestion did it for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230;..  The &#8220;Right-pane&#8221; suggestion did it for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Asder43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asder43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys,
this forum was really helpful for me. I was
stuck at the &#039;create shortcut&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys,<br />
this forum was really helpful for me. I was<br />
stuck at the &#8216;create shortcut&#8217;.</p>
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